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Quotes from non-Baptists on Baptist succession
Written by Josh Winslett   
Monday, 13 June 2011 19:31

 

 

Here are some quotes about Baptist succession from some non-Baptists.

 

From Lutheran historian Johann Lorenz Mosheim:

"The true origin of that sect which acquired the denomination of Anabaptists by their administering anew the rite of baptism to those who came over to their communion, and derived that of Mennonites from the famous man to whom they owe the greatest part of their present felicity, is hidden in the depths of antiquity, and is, of consequence, extremely difficult to be ascertained."

"Before the rise of Luther and Calvin, there lay concealed, in almost all the countries of Europe, particularly in Bohemia, Maravia, Switzerland, and Germany, many persons, who adhered tenaciously to the following doctrine, which the Waldenses, Wickliffites, and Hussites, had maintained, some in a more disguised and others in a more open and public manner; viz. 'That the kingdom of Christ, or the visible church which He established upon earth, was an assembly of true and real saints, and ought therefore to be inaccessible to the wicked and unrighteous, and also exempt from all those institutions which human prudence suggests, to oppose the progress of iniquity, or to correct and reform transgressors.'"

 

From Dr. Ypeij, Professor of Theology in the University of Groningen and Rev. J.J. Dermot, Chaplain to the King:

"We have now seen that the Baptists, who were formerly called Anabaptists, and in later times, Mennonites, were the original Waldenses, and who, long in the history of the church, received the honor of that origin. On this account the Baptists may be considered as the only Christian community which has stood since the apostles, and, as a Christian society, has preserved pure the doctrine of the gospel through all ages. The perfectly correct, external and internal economy of the Baptist denomination tends to confirm the truth disputed by the Romish Church, that the Reformation, brought about in the sixteenth century, was in the highest degree necessary; and, at the same time, goes to refute the erroneous notion of the Catholics, that their communion is the most ancient." (My Church by J.B. Moody, pp. 311)

 

From Zwingli, a Protestant companion of John Calvin:

"The institution of the Anabaptists is no novelty, but for 1300 years has caused great trouble in the church."


From Hosius, Bishop of Cordova, assisted as legate of Pope Sylvester:

"Were it not that the baptists have been grievously tormented and cut off with the knife during the past twelve hundred years, they would swarm in greater number than all the Reformers." (Hosius, Letters, Apud Opera, Pages 112-113)

 

 

John Clark Ridpath, doubtlessly the greatest historian the world has ever produced and a Methodist by denomination:

"I should not readily admit that there was a Baptist church as far back as 100 A.D., although without doubt there were Baptist churches then, as all Christians were then Baptists."

 

Sir Isaac Newton:

"The Baptists are the only body of known Christians that have never symbolized with Rome."

 

From Alexander Campbell, the father of the Campbellites:

"I would engage to show that baptism as viewed and practiced by the Baptists, had its advocates in every century up to the Christian era…and independent of whose existence (the German Anabaptists), clouds of witnesses attest the fact, that before the Reformation from popery, and from the apostolic age, to the present time, the sentiments of Baptists, and the practice of baptism have had a continued chain of advocates, and public monuments of their existence in every century can be produced." (In his debate with Mr. Macalla)

 

From Robert Barclay, a Quaker:

"We shall afterwards show the rise of the Anabaptists took place prior to the Reformation of the Church of England, and there are also reasons for believing that on the Continent of Europe small hidden Christian societies, who have held many of the opinions of the Anabaptists, have existed from the times of the apostles. In the sense of the direct transmission of Divine Truth, and the true nature of spiritual religion, it seems probable that these churches have a lineage or succession more ancient than that of the Roman Church (Barclay, The Inner Life of the Societies of the Commonwealth, 11, 12, London, 1876)."

 

From Charles Spurgeon, British Particular Baptist preacher (ok, so he was an English Baptist but I really like this quote):

"We believe that the Baptists are the original Christians. We did not commence our existence at the Reformation, we were Reformers before Luther or Calvin were born; we never came from the Church of Rome, for we were never in it, but we have an unbroken line up to the apostles themselves. We have always existed from the very days of Christ, and our principles, sometimes veiled and forgotten, like a river which may travel underground for a little season, have always had honest and holy adherents. Persecuted alike by Romanists and Protestants of almost every sect, yet there has never existed a Government holding Baptist principles which persecuted others; nor I believe any body of Baptists ever held it to be right to put the consciences of others under the control of man. We have ever been ready to suffer, as our martyrologies will prove, but we are not ready to accept any help from the State, to prostitute the purity of the Bride of Christ to any alliance with the government, and we will never make the Church, although the Queen, the despot over the consciences of men."

 

~JW

 
Believe according to the working of His Mighty Power
Written by Ben Winslett   
Tuesday, 07 June 2011 09:17

Ever read Ephesians chapter 2, verse 1? In that verse we find the following: "And you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins.."

Paul is writing about Almighty God giving Spiritual life to those who are in a state of death in sin. Notice that verse begins with the word "and." This means that this precious verse is directly tied to the context of the preceding chapter. Allow me to share with you a portion of chapter 1 and the very thoughts of the Apostle Paul leading up to this well known, glorious verse.

Notice the following scripture from Ephesians chapter 1:

The eyes of your understanding being enlightened; that ye may know what is the hope of his calling, and what the riches of the glory of his inheritance in the saints, And what is the exceeding greatness of his power to us-ward who believe, according to the working of his mighty power, Which he wrought in Christ, when he raised him from the dead, and set him at his own right hand in the heavenly places...

Notice a very important phrase in this paragraph! How do men believe? Does every human even have the ability to believe in Christ? This verse answers those questions.

Remember, Paul's thoughts are culminated with the phrase "And you hath He quickened," which means "made alive." Paul says that EVERY person who believes in the Lord Jesus Christ, believes "according to the working of His mighty power." What is this telling us? This verse is telling us that the only way a person believes is if God works His mighty power upon the said person. Let me say that a little differently, God must work His mighty power upon a person for that person to be able to believe!

Also, according to the above scripture this event in which God "works His mighty power" is tantamount to the event in which God raised up the Lord Jesus Christ from the dead. In simple terms, this "working" of God's mighty power is the same type of event as Christ's resurrection. For an individual to believe, it takes no less power that the very power of God that raised Jesus Christ from the dead! Christ must resurrect our souls.

Why? Well, the answer is simple. Prior to this event a person is "dead in trespasses and in sins." This refers to death in a spiritual sense. Just as a physically dead man can do nothing, being dead, a spiritually dead man can do nothing in a spiritual sense, including repentance and belief. Dead means dead! This is why, naturally speaking, there is "none that seeketh after God" and why "the natural man receiveth not" the things of God (Romans 3, 1 Corinthians 2:14).

We believe because a loving and holy God has given our dead, depraved souls new life in Jesus Christ, in essence making us "new creatures" (new creations) in Christ Jesus.

Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life. - Jesus Christ, John 5:24

 

 
Wonderful Hymn
Written by Josh Winslett   
Monday, 06 June 2011 16:27

This hymn has been on my mind for a few months.  Pay close attention to these beautiful words.


Title: "Behold the Lamb of God."
Hymn book: "The Good Old Songs"
page 701

 

1. Behold! behold the lamb of God!
On the cross, on the cross!
He sheds for you His precious blood,
On the cross, on the cross!
Oh, hear His all important cry,
"Eli lama sabachthani?"
Draw near and see your Saviour Die,
On the cross, on the cross!

2. Behold His arms extended wide,
On the cross, on the cross!
Behold his bleeding hands and side,
On the cross, on the cross!
The sun withholds his rays of light,
The heavens are clothed in shades of night,
While Jesus doth with devils fight,
On the cross, on the cross!

3. Come, brethren, see Him lifted up,
On the cross, on the cross!
For you He drinks the bitter cup,
On the cross, on the cross!
The rocks do rend, the mountains quake,
While Jesus doth atonement make,
While Jesus suffers for our sake,
On the cross, on the cross!

4. And now the mighty deed is done,
On the cross, on the cross!
The battle's fought, the victory's won,
On the cross, on the cross!
To heaven He turns his lanquid eyes,
"'T is finished," now the Conqueror cries,
Then bows His scared Head and dies,
On the cross, on the cross!

5. Where'er I go I'll tell the story
Of the cross, of the cross;
Of nothing else my soul shall glory,
Save the cross, save the cross!
Yea, this my constant theme shall be,
Through time and in eternity,
That Jesus tasted death for me,
On the cross, on the cross!

6. Let every mourner rise and cling
To the cross, to the cross!
Let every Christian come and sing
'Round the cross, 'round the cross!
There let the preacher take his stand,
And, with the Bible in his hand,
Declare the triumphs through the land,
Of the cross, of the cross!

 
Where is the blessedness?
Written by Josh Winslett   
Sunday, 05 June 2011 15:55

Today my mind feels somewhat nostalgic and ashamed. I am feeling nostalgic from looking back at all the spiritual moments in my life and the zeal that I had for my God and his cause. I feel ashamed because that zeal often feels to have left. When I look back at the zeal I possessed in years past I find myself nearly saddened at the apathy that can so easily creep into my heart. The words of hymn writer William Cowper define a prayer that my heart screams.


O For a Closer Walk With God
by William Cowper

1. O for a closer walk with God,
A calm and heavenly frame;
A light to shine upon the road
That leads me to the Lamb!

2. Where is the blessedness I knew,
When first I saw the Lord?
Where is the soul refreshing view
Of Jesus and His word?

3. What peaceful hours I once enjoyed!
How sweet their memory still!
But they have left and aching void
The world can never fill.

4. Return, O holy Dove, return,
Sweet messenger of rest!
I hate the sins that made Thee mourn,
And drove Thee from my breast.

5. The dearest idol I have known,
Whate'er that idol be,
Help me to tear it from Thy throne,
And worship only Thee.

6. So shall my walk be close with God,
Calm and serene my frame;
So purer light shall mark the road
That leads me to the Lamb.


~JW

 
Implications of Allegorizing Adam and Eve
Written by Ben Winslett   
Friday, 03 June 2011 10:05

A friend shared an article on Facebook earlier today that caught my eye. The Title of the article read "Ken Ham Agrees With Athiests On Literal View of Adam and Eve." Knowing that Mr Ham is a leading proponent of the Genesis account of creation, this title caught my attention, prompting me to read the article.

Read the original article here: http://www.christianpost.com/news/ken-ham-agrees-with-atheists-on-literal-view-of-adam-and-eve-50773/

The story was, in fact, covering an ongoing debate between Old Earth and Young Earth proponents. Young Earth proponents, such as myself, believe the Biblical accounts of both the creation and fall of mankind, the flood, fall of Babel, etc. Old Earth believers consider the Bible a tricky metaphor, not to be taken literally, and view the earth's creation through the lens of modern scientific theory (which I would call "science falsely so-called"). The witty title brought out the fact that even Atheists who read Genesis chapter 1 realize that it was written in a way to be take literally, not allegorically.

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Great Quote
Written by Josh Winslett   
Saturday, 21 May 2011 08:53

While reading this morning I ran across an excellent quote that I thought I would share with y'all......

 

"I have no sympathy for, nor patience with, the statement that the church is just what the Lord would have it be, and that His ministers are doing just what is best, and according to His expressed will in regard to serving the church. Such statements make void the record of the scriptures in which the Lord reproves His people for neglecting His service and turning away from His altars. It is a rejection of the scriptures to say that it pleased the Lord for His ancient people to turn after idols instead of serving the true and the living God." -Elder Walter Cash, Support of the Ministry, August 15, 1917

 

~JW

 
Gird Thy Loins Up Christian Soldier
Written by Ben Winslett   
Monday, 11 April 2011 11:14

A dear sister called me this morning to share the following hymn with me. She said she had it on her mind for at least two weeks, and wanted to share it with me knowing the constant warfare ministers face. I was very much encouraged by the sweet words of this hymn.

The hymn is called "Gird thy Loins Up." The time is 8s and 7s, so it can be sung to tunes like "Ripley" (e.g. Glorious Things of Thee Are Spoken) or "Australian Hymn." The hymn is 638 in Cayce's Good Old Songs and 78 in Old School Hymnal #12.

Enjoy and be encouraged!

Gird Thy Loins Up
Joseph Hart
#638, The Good Old Songs

1 Gird thy loins up, Christian soldier;
Lo! thy Captain calls thee out;
Let the danger make thee bolder;
War in weakness, dare in doubt.
Buckle on thy heavenly armour;
Patch up no inglorious peace;
Let thy courage wax the warmer,
As thy foes and fears increase.

2 Bind thy golden girdle round thee,
Truth to keep thee firm and tight;
Never shall the foe confound thee,
While the truth maintains thy fight.
Righteousness within thee rooted
May appear to take thy part;
But let righteousness imputed
Be the breastplate of thy heart.

3 Shod with gospel-preparation,
In the paths of promise tread;
Let the hope of free salvation,
As a helmet, guard thy head.
When beset with various evils,
Wield the Spirit’s two-edged sword,
Cut thy way through hosts of devils,
While they fall before the Word.

4 But when dangers closer threaten,
And thy soul draws near to death;
When assaulted sore by Satan,
Then object the shield of faith;
Fiery darts of fierce temptations,
Intercepted by thy God,
There shall lose their force in patience,
Sheathed in love, and quenched in blood.

5 Though to speak thou be not able,
Always pray and never rest;
Prayer’s a weapon for the feeble;
Weakest souls can wield it best.
Ever on thy Captain calling,
Make thy worst condition known;
He shall hold thee up when falling,
Or shall lift thee up when down.

 
In Good Company? (Church Hoppers and Unqualified Ministry)
Written by Ben Winslett   
Monday, 04 April 2011 08:34

I was reading an article last night on the subject of "Church Hoppers." A Church Hopper is a person who moves from congregation to congregation and never stays at one place for any great length of time. There are varying degrees of this, but it is a problem that exists on a many levels in American Christianity. The Hopper will begin attending, glory over the new church, and stick around just long enough to see some of the flaws in the membership (which all churches have - we are sinners) and then hop to the next congregation or order of faith. This seems to be a product of American culture. We place ourselves as the ultimate judge and authority while at the same time being totally impossible to satisfy.

In the article, the last paragraph contained what the writer thought were legitimate reasons to switch churches. Of course, to me, as a Primitive Baptist, I will attend no other type of church than a PB church. I sincerely believe that the first century Church was a Baptist Church. I believe Primitive Baptists possess the historic form of the Baptist Faith, both in doctrine and practice. It's a simple choice for me, I recommend attending the closest PB Church (or a close PB church - if there are multiple congregations) to home. If there is not a nearby church body, move to a location where there is a church body. It's a pretty simple solution and it solves the whole problem.

Among the writer's "legitimate reasons" to swap churches was "unqualified ministry." That provoked me to think "what is unqualified ministry??" What qualifies a man to preach? Well, in the denominational word of fast food Christianity (forgive if you must), a seminary degree qualifies a man to be a pastor. With no degree, a man is not "qualified." He is merely a "lay minister." But, is that what qualified the Apostles? Is that what qualified Titus, Barnabas, Silas, or Timothy? No, not at all. Do you know what qualified First Century men to the ministry? A God-call. Simple, isn't it!

Now, those men were to spend countless hours preparing themselves for this work by studying God's Word and prayer. But the qualification came directly from God Himself. God "opens their understanding" of the scriptures.

Then opened he their understanding, that they might understand the scriptures... -Luke 24:45

After the call to preach is given, the man studies with his pastor or "father in the ministry". He devotes his time and energy to learning the Bible and exercises his gift to preach by speaking to the church. He grows as a minister IN the Church. Where in scripture is the church commanded to outsource this responsibility to a college or university? No where! This is one of the church's primary duties! (See Titus 1:5)

But in reading the article, I was prompted to remember just how the Apostles were often received by unbelieving or carnal audiences. Did unbelievers perceive them as able, qualified speakers? Serious question. Notice how they were often accused of being rude, ignorant babblers.

Now when they saw the boldness of Peter and John, and perceived that they were unlearned and ignorant men, they marvelled; and they took knowledge of them, that they had been with Jesus. - Acts 4:13

Then certain philosophers of the Epicureans, and of the Stoicks, encountered him. And some said, What will this babbler say? other some, He seemeth to be a setter forth of strange gods: because he preached unto them Jesus, and the resurrection. - Acts 17:18

For his letters, say they, are weighty and powerful; but his bodily presence is weak, and his speech contemptible. - 2 Corinthians 10:10

Don't confuse this with me putting a "premium on ignorance." I am not. I strive to present my sermons in an informed, articulate manner. Yet at the same time, if the carnal person or unbeliever thinks high of a minister, something is wrong! For if the greatest of the New Testament ministers, the Apostles, were perceived in such a light, how then should a normal elder be perceived by the surrounding culture? No better, I am sure.

 
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